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Screech, nooooooo!

maybe Rich Hill can be terrible somehwere else next year?

GoodBye!!!!

Is there any good reason for them NOT to test the free agent waters?

Particularly Fiorentino who may be offered the 4th OF spot on someones ML team. Or at least a decent shot at it.

Does this mean we don't owe the Cubs anything for Hill?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------The deal still goes through, but I believe it was only a small cash transaction. - Roch

Roch, On a different subject don't you think that the Phillies would be better off by putting the ball in J.A. Happs hands rather than in Pedro's? I say that because Damon, Matsui, Cano, Gardner are all left handers and Teixiera, Swisher and Posada are less strong from the right side. Also take into consideration that the Yankee Stadium has a short right porch. Happ can also contain the Yankees' running game better. To me it's no contest even though Pedro maybe the best pitcher of last 15 years.

Can we finally admit the Rich Hill experiment was a DISASTER!?

What an utterly humiliating development for Andrew. Hill was so bad he had to be DFA, and THEN, he refuses it. When players as bad a Hill are refusing to stay with the Orioles, you know you have a troubled franchise.

Bye bye retread. Take your story about "injuries" somewhere else.
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I don't see how this was humiliating. The Orioles gave up next to nothing for a guy who was a big-time prospect not long ago and had a good year with the Cubs. If it worked out, great. If not, so what? Hill isn't the reason that the Orioles finished in last place. He was worth taking a chance on. - Roch

Hill won't be back. He's a LHP with potential and he probably wants to go back to the NL anyway.

I heard a rumur that the O's are willing to trade Erbe, Arietta, Begesen, Luke Scott, and Nick Markakis to the Royals fore Billy Butler, Zach Grenkie, and Their Closer!!!

Now that Hill is a free agent, do we still owe the Cubs a PTBNL?
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I believe it was a small cash transaction. Deal isn't voided simply because Hill was outrighted, but the Cubs weren't asking for much to begin with. - Roch

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh JPA.........

Owen scored again, this time in the Champions League. Four goals now in 14 games.

No harm, no foul, no worries. Who wouldn't want to test the FA waters? I can't imagine they're going to by in that high demand.

That sucks, but good riddance. We shouldnt want anyone who doesnt want to be here. We could use the depth w/ Hill, but whatever.

Hill is a jerk, we gave him an opportunity to revive his career. After he struggled mightily, we showed a willingness to allow him to work through his problems. Hey, go ahead walk away. You obviously have it all figured out. He will fail

"nah nah nah nah... hey hey..."

Addition by subtraction is the term the kids are using nowadays.

Prayers answered!
Hill refused his assignment!

Mr. Andy will talk him into coming back.
So much for loyality to an organization for giving him a second chance!

Do they actually think they are going to get paid more to play for another minor league team? Especially given the forecasted free agent market that is supposed to have dozens of non-tenders this year?

Is there truly any incentive to accepting the assignment? Minor league contracts don't vary much from a salary perspective, so unless you dont think you'll be signed, makes sense to "test the waters". That said, I'm happy Simon is staying - he has potential to be a strong righty middle reliever to partner with Hendrickson (sorry Brian Bass).

Where did you get your info Larry your bowl of alphabets? Dude you got dumber by the word good thing it was short entry.

I'm glad for Rich,Gil, and Jeff it shows they're smart enough to take their agents advice. Now if the O's offer is close to what the other teams are offering they should come back, all three have served the organization well albeit with a diminished capacity due to injury or role slotting and can continue to progress with coaches that know them and are already preparing a path to the big leagues for them.

My feeling was rage with Reebok when I heard about Bias' death. I worked with a girl who had big-time Reebok connections and had bragged for days about the great time, any thing goes, after party, the young exec's were giving that night to celebrate his signing. I sure would like to know where that group was in his dying moments. The girl I worked with never came back and I have never purchased another Reebok product.

Leon - money's not the issue here. Those three players would be extremely lucky to get any kind of major league deal; more likely they'll get a minor league deal with an invite to Spring Training. The thing is, a guy like Rich Hill has virtually no chance of making our Opening Day roster (barring injury or miraculous developments in Spring Training). For a team like the Indians or Padres, he could have a good shot at getting a rotation spot if he pitches well in ST. You can't really hold this decision against them.

Roch

Any thoughts on what a healthy Alfredo Simon could project to be?
Does he remind you of Liz?
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His mechanics are better than Liz. I doubt if he winds up in the rotation again. That was done out of necessity last spring. He could compete for spot in bullpen. My guess is he ends up pitching at Norfolk. - Roch

Brummie -

~~Can we finally admit the Rich Hill experiment was a DISASTER!?

What an utterly humiliating development for Andrew. Hill was so bad he had to be DFA, and THEN, he refuses it. When players as bad a Hill are refusing to stay with the Orioles, you know you have a troubled franchise.

Bye bye retread. Take your story about "injuries" somewhere else. ~~

You remind me of Al Gore. You are so impressed with yourself, and so sure that you are the smartest guy in the room that you wont stop flapping your gums about things about which you know nothing, to learn from the guys who really DO know something. You refuse, in the face of ever increasing mountains of evidence that you are wrong.

1. The final chapter has not been written on Rich Hill.

2. A professional baseball man, as opposed to a mouthy blowhard know nothing fan such as yourself, knows he isn't going to be perfect in this game so one bad move is hardly an embarrassment.

3. If I were caught making up quotes and evidence as often as you, I would not throw around the word embarrassment, never mind your nonexistent "journalistic integrity".

4. On the off chance you ever actually open your closed and unused mind to learn instead of merely to belittle, EVERY GM DFAs players. It is biz as usual, not an embarrassing admission of inadequacy or as with your posts, a cry for help.

5. Hill was retained after a lousy season ended in injury. He was DFA'd when the roster crunch hit. So your cause and effect statement is another case of your being wrong when you manufacture supporting evidence instead of sticking to the truth.

6. In another stupifying attempt at spin, you single out Hill's turning down the option as somehow something meaningful. Ignoring of course that the other guys turned down theirs too. That it is in fact the common course of action.

7. If you are really as intelligent as you think you are, reading the posts you write here is like watching Laurence Olivier play Jethro Bodine on the Beverly Hillbillies, no matter how brilliant the acting, the role is beneath him.

In regards to Simon you said, "I doubt if he winds up in the rotation again". If he's in the rotation shouldn't he use a wind up?

Thanks, Lucky. Everything I wanted to say much better written than I would have said it.

To paraphrase my teenage daughter... "Ooooh, burn. Need a tissue?"

Simon is a smart guy....

The others, not so much.

Hill actually did the team a favor, now they won't be tempted to keep the guy around.

Lucky Horseshoe

Thanks for telling the moron its better to be untaught than ill taught.

Cheers