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Eaton's lifetime ERA is 4.85. He's logged 1137.2 innings pitched in 9+ seasons.

How many more innings does Trembley need?

I disagree, I don't think the leash is longer. I think that message was not for the reports or fans. I think it was for Adam Eaton to maybe give him some confidence for his next outing so he is not fearing that if he sucks it up, hes out.

The old adage, if your performance is so poor your manager has to defend you on a night when you didn't even pitch, the writing is on the wall. He'll be awful for three more starts, then if everything goes right Hill will take his place, or perhaps Hernandez if Hill is not right by then. It will be a small miracle if the O's win one of those three starts.

"I don't think the notion ought to be that, every time he pitches out there, if he pitches good, he's on the team. If he doesn't pitch good, he's going to get replaced. I don't think that's real fair."

---In a fair and just world, an older pitcher with a 7+ ERA does not get signed to a rebuilding team.

"If he pitches great tomorrow, everybody's going to jump on the band wagon and say, 'Hey, what a great pitcher he is.'

---Totally unfair. We will more likely say, "even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while." I think Dave underestimates our collective intelligence but we are a pretty reactive bunch. Most of us get the need to be patient, we just disagree who we should be patient with.

As for the game, unsatisfying because of the poor D, the pickoff and Guthrie's subpar command, but you are gonna lose some of those. I hope the defense improves. I might sit Jones a couple of more days. Hammys can linger.

Here you have heard the PLAN straight from ANDREW's mouthpiece. He obviously gave Trembley a script to read from where Eaton is concerned. If Simon had not been injured Bergesen would never have gotten called up at all. His call up is just to throw a bone to the Kool-Aid drinkers to make you all think there is a PLAN. When Hill is ready I suppose Hendrickson will go back to the bullpen. ANDREW can not release Eaton because ANDREW signed him and told us all that he is a quality veteren and ANDREW can never be wrong. But we know the real reason is because Eaton comes cheap. Thanks a lot ANDREW!

Here's a little English lesson for this evening's class:

"Dispel" - (verb) to make disappear; drive away; scatter.

Now, let's edit and clarify what Trembley was REALLY trying to say (not to call into question your ability to take an accurate quote Roch):

"I'd like to dispel [delete 'with this'] Adam Eaton"..."I don't think that every time Adam Eaton pitches it's a critical situation or a crucial situation [because we're usually down by 6 runs by the end of the 1st inning]."..."Adam Eaton has pitched [terribly] for a long time."..."If he pitches great tomorrow, everybody's going to jump on the bandwagon and say 'Hey, what a great pitcher he is. (pause) NOT!!!' [Ha, ha, ha, I love watching that Borat movie on the road]. And if he doesn't pitch well, people are going to say '[How much is enough? Are you a masochist? What does it take for this bum to be released? Does he have compromising pictures of ANDREW (Jack's line)?] Well, is that the last time you're going to start him?'...We have to catch it better, (sic) we have to hit better [because we know that we won't pitch better]."..."We'll do the best we can and show confidence in our guys [and then, when the lights are turned off and the microphones and pads are put away, I'll sit down in my office with a bottle of single malt and cry over the most recent Eaton pathetic pitching performance that I had to make excuses for in advance]."

It's all about reading between the lines.

C'mon, Dave. That's ridiculous. This guy hasn't pitched good in 3 years. He may be the greatest guy in the world but he's no longer a major league pitcher. This whole "he's a proven veteran" line just doesn't work with Eaton. I respect the way the O's are building this club and the patience they want to have with the young guys but I don't understand having Eaton in the rotation. We would be better off with Bass, Waters, or even Baez. Eaton has proven he can't get major leaguers out. Let Bass or Waters prove that until the young guns are ready.

OK, I have two comments from Trembley quotes:

1) "If he pitches great tomorrow, everybody's going to jump on the band wagon and say, 'Hey, what a great pitcher he is.'"

No, Dave, I don't think ANYONE will ever say that about Eaton. He is a terrible starter and has a long history of having a decent outing followed by one that is so dirty it would make a hooker blush. Even Adam Eaton's mother wouldn't drive the bandwagon for him.

2) "I think with hitters, you give them at-bats. I think you give them 75-100 at-bats. Adam Eaton has pitched for a long time. I don't think the notion ought to be that, every time he pitches out there, if he pitches good, he's on the team."

Just because Eaton has tenure in this league does not mean we should give him time to see if he can improve. With him, we already know what we'll get over the season's duration. I would much rather see Berken, Waters or Hernandez up here than trudge through another 4-5 Eaton starts.

Even if Eaton does come through with a quality start, his history shows that it will not be sustained for long. I realize this season has been written off by some in the F.O. but I still would like to see the best possible team out there whenever possible, and Eaton is NOT a better option than our boys in Norfolk.

After all that passion, saying all the right things, Dave concludes with "What we have is what we have." Which, I suppose, is another semantic variation of the trendy "It is what it is."

Oriole fans who pay close attention know what we have in Adam Eaton. We're not rooting against him. We want the team to win. We would like him to succeed. But, to say "If he pitches great tomorrow, everybody's going to jump on the bandwagon and say 'Hey what a great pitcher he is' is a misreading by Dave of the intellect of Bird watchers.

That's lousy spin, words with no movement.

If Eaton has another "Eaton-like" start with 9 earned runs by the fourth inning, hopefully Bergesen's start the other night will inspire the powers that be to bring up another young arm. I'm not saying bring up Matuz, Tillman or Arietta, but there has to be another on the brink with a more minor league experience. Besides Waters, who do you think will be the next to make it to the show that fits that mold?

Did he refer to Jack by name or just allude to him anonymously?

Actually I doubt we will be on the bandwagon if he pitches great tomorrow.We will be saying Lets see if he can do it again!I really don't like the leash getting longer either :( "SMH"

I don't know how much longer the leash got with Eaton, Roch. I really don't. I simply think Trembley is trying to take some pressure off him, hoping that results in an effective start. I think we could still see him out of the rotation after simply two or so bad starts.

I don't care what Trembley says. When Rich Hill completes his rehab stint, Eaton is history.

Trembley isn't going to critisize one of his own players in the media.He speaks in general terms hoping someone gets the hint.This team continues to play sloppy uninspired ball and Trembley just says,tomorrow's a new day.But he's right when he says you have what you have.I just hope Melvin is healthy by next week,his bat is sorely missed right now along with his field prescence.

They're probably stalling with Eaton until Hill is ready, but guess what Hill will be just as big a waste of time.

Somewhere Kevin Millar is laughing.

I think Adam Eaton's leash is as long as it takes for Rich Hill to complete his rehab assignment and get major league ready.

Roch,

Did someone point out to Trembley that Eaton has the highest ERA in baseball over the last two years? One would think that was a long enough evaluation period.

Absolutely no one will say Adam Eaton is a great pitcher if he has a good start!! Trembley is reaching!!

Part of what he says is for sure true..we need to play better.. pitching..catching and hitting..but Eaton sucks..and has proven it steady for the last several years....how can you win when your starter connsistently gives up so many runs per 4-5 innings....make sno sense to me and for the first time this season I totally disagree with Trembley on Eaton...the guy sucks big time.

This defense comes from the same manager that denounced looking at a person past performance when they were in Spring Training. Well Dave.... maybe if you would have looked at his past performance you would have realized that he stunk back then and stinks right now.

This sounds more like a message from Andrew delivered thru Dave. Andrew is trying to tell us, you guys pushed hard enough to get Bergy up here....now shut up because I am not bringing Berken, Tillman or Arietta up until I am ready.

I don't think Dave is holding the leash. I think he has been told that he needs to play the cards he has been dealt.

Seems Trembley thinks it's ok to generalize when it comes to fans "If he pitches great tomorrow, everybody's going to jump on the band wagon and say, 'Hey, what a great pitcher he is.' And if he doesn't pitch well, people are going to say, 'Well, is that the last time you're going to start him?"
Yet the fans are not supposed to have the same outlook.
You cannot have it both ways.

Eaton was brought in as filler to eat innings and keep the team in games until younger starter begin to arrive.
He has done none of that from spring training through his most recent start.

Be consistent. I know Eaton is not getting it done, but we are sticking with him as it is the choice we made. That would be a better assessment of the situation.

Roch,
Do you think Eaton's performance justifies him still being with the team ?

Since Dave assumes he knows the mind of Fans perhaps the blurb about, " I think with hitters, you give them at-bats. I think you give them 75-100 at-bats." is a hint that Pie is nearing the cut off point ;)
What do you think Roch ?

Psssssssssssst, Dave.... he's not going to pitch "great" tonight.

I realize that Dave is just trying to keep up the confidence with the team he has been given...but seriously if Eaton still managed to give up 6 runs in 4 innings with the unbelievably generous strike zone he was given up in Fenway the last go around there is nothing that is going to help him.

I'm usually not much of a basher, however... Eaton has to go. I thought it was sad when we signed him, I would have given Pedro his money. Then again I would have given Ben Sheets his money, and look how that's turning out. Any chance the Mets will give us John Maine back for Adam Eaton? I know, I know, I'm just being silly. I'm kind of hoping that in the offseason a certain canadian may come back into the black and orange. I have heard alot of talk about past orioles crops of pitchers, so far back as Ben McDonald... Now I was kind of young but as I recall Ben McDonald was a solid Number 3 or past that in the rotation, am I wrong about this? and the Bedard crop, well he turned out pretty good, and John Maine is no slouch. I think as whole orioles fans are just so disgruntled that we bash everything this franchise has ever done. I think we have only one person to blame for this downturn in a once great franchise.............

Jeffry Mayer

I think that "75-100 at-bats" was code for how many at=bats they'll give the controversial hitters before the O's make a decision on them.

Eaton will win tonight, it's gotta happen eventually! Doesn't mean he's fixed things, he's just gotta get a W one night and the bats will show up this eve...go ahead and bet the farm! Then go ahead and bet the farm again he won't win until he's replaced by Hill.

Comments like these from our manager make it awfully difficult for me to believe that he should/will be the manager of the next winning Orioles team.

And now what. How does the crow taste? A little faith in your Birds would be so refreshing. I hope you don't treat your friends the way you treat your team.