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Miggy should have all of the motivation in the world to play well this year. I think he'll have a very good year. I wish him the best.

Man... that is a power lineup.

Steve,

I think the fans need to get over the baggage issue. The Astros survived the events as they were unfolding and Miggy managed to not let those things keep him from having two good seasons. Everyone needs to keep "the plan" in mind. Miggy isn't a long term solution. Snyder and Bell need an opportunity to get more experience. If the players are fired up over Tejada, then that should be all that counts...they know him better than anyone else.

Management has done a great job filling holes and the media seem to wholeheartedly agree. If I were grading Mr. MacPhail's performance I'd give a B+. The addition of Hendrickson and Bedard before Spring Training would deserve an "A".

Jim Carter
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I have to say, Jim, I knew the players liked Tejada, but had no idea they felt that strongly about him. That's a good sign. A lot of it will be up to Tejada. He just needs to come here, play hard and drive in a few runs and a lot from the past will stay there......Steve

You might want to check out Tejada's home/road splits from last year.

This move might help the Orioles compete with Toronto to avoid the cellar, but does anyone think this is something even a .500 team would do?
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No doubt he was better at home last year, hitting .283-4-40 on the road. The power was way down, but he only hit 10 at home. In 2008 at Houston he hit 8 homers at home and 5 on the road.

Those splits don't alarm me. You could double that road production and he'd still have a decent year. Also, I'd expect more than 8 homers playing half his games at O's Park.

Any team needing a solid player for a one-year stopgap move with a top prospect waiting in the wings, would certainly make this move........Steve

Gotta hand it to you, Steve, you're always there to take one for the team.

The O's could sign Bernie Madoff and you'd figure out a way to give them props for it.

Andy's off-season quote - "We're gonna buy the bats" (this winter). And those bats were, who, exactly? Atkins and Tejada? Those are some bats, Andy.

I assume you're on board with Andy fibbing to the fans too?
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I got to hand it to you, you criticize everything the O's do on every blog every day. Don't you realize that no one is taking you seriously anymore.

I pointed out in the article the reasons why some would criticize the move. I listed five in the pro category and six in the con category.

When someone rips the team every day in every blog they simply have an agenda that is tiresome. There is nothing wrong with criticism, the team has done a lot wrong to lose so much.

But is their every move a bad one? You are like the kid that cried wolf. If you ever really have a good point, no one will listen anyway. But I still am glad you read what we write......Steve

Steve. as to the lineup, sounnds ok but when you add 4 men to it to make 13 position and (12 pitchers as a rule).that leaves Pie,Wiggington.Andino and the catcher whomever,trying to get at bats in the dh spot might be a problem,I'm not a Scott fan but after Pie's finish I thought he and Wiggington might split the dh . If we could get Scott to be more consistent I might change my mind,but your lineup looks like there won't be too much change.
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I can forsee Luke as the mostly regular DH, after all he did have 25 HR and 77 RBI in just 449 at bats. If you just look at those numbers, that's decent production. His slugging percent was better than Jones, Markakis and Reimold. If, the big if, he could just avoid the major slumps.

They'll get the other guys in, especially Pie. But having talent on the bench shows the depth is better and the team is better.......Steve

Steve:
You are way too tolerant of Jack (who was banned from Roch's blog).
Repetitious trolls like Jack who sound like the old 'See and Say' dolls (you pull the string and the same thing comes out every time) should be banned for taking up time and space and offering nothing.

Keep up the good work!
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Thanks for the comments....Steve

Steve, interesting suggestion about MT hitting cleanup. I can't hardly imagine how jazzed he would be to be in that position again. And with all those AL East games at the start of the season, it may not be a bad idea at all.

Not saying I'm on board with it, but it has its intrigue.

Any more talk of Delgado? He IS hitting. Though I understand he can't play first base anymore.
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I don't see him in the mix at all now that they signed Tejada, I could be wrong. Yes, I'm for Miggy in the four hole, as I said at the start. You can change that at any time, but why not let Reimold and Wieters get more established before putting them there. Also I'm a fan of Markakis hitting third.......Steve

What number might he wear, hopefully he wont ask for 10, and 4 is retired, how about 24 or 14 if Noland wants to go to another number. What about Garrett Atkins do you know?
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Nolan is number 14 and Jones is number 10. Adam said he would give up 10 to Miguel and I could tell he was serious about that. So, we'll see, we were not told anything about his number, that's probably still to be resolved.

Not that you asked, but I'll point out that Caleb Joseph, the non-roster player I recently wrote about is listed as number 72 on a roster we got. On that roster, no number was listed for Atkins yet.

You forgot to mention that he demanded a trade on two different occasions in his somewhat brief stay in Baltimore and didn't hesitate to share his excitement when he was finally taded to Houston.

Batting him 4th is an interesting idea, but how do you think he would respond to being dropped to 7th or 8th later in the season?
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The trade "demand" was a brief comment he made to an AP reporter in the Dominican in December of 2006 and at FanFest that year he rescinded the trade request and actually played here the next season.

Not sure how he would feel about being dropped in the order, but pending his results, it certainly could happen......Steve

Steve
I do not know how long Luke and Wiggy will be on this team. Neither will be here August 1st. While Luke is still here, I would plug him into the 4 slot. He had a great first half and he led the team in HRs last year and maybe the best bet to start the season there. I would rather not have a lefty at both the 3 and 4, but Nick's best spot is the 3 and Wiggy will not have enough power to bat clean up. Miggy will be a nice option behind Roberts. Reimold, Weiters, and Jones are inter changeable at the 5, 6, & 7. That provides a nice 1-7 lineup. Atkins if he hits 250+ would be a bonus. If Atkins hits 250+, Miggy, and Wiggy could bring us bullpen relief, all are no investment types for a contender. We know about Bell and Snyder being the heirs at 1st and 3rd, but who are the likely heirs at SS?
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There is no one considered a future ML shortstop right now unless you project Mychal Givens there in four years. Blake Davis is someone worth tracking at short likely at AAA this year and Pedro Florimon, now on the 40-man roster had a real good year at Frederick last year. If he comes through at Bowie with a decent year he could play his way into the O's future at short.......Steve

Good pick up also like you line up, think Markakis gets more to hit with Tejada behind him.

I like your thoughts on the lineup, what would you think about moving Reimold to cleanup if he startsout well? Also what do you think are the chances of Bedard coming back,and any guesses on how much it might cost?
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I could see Reimold hitting fourth at some point. He may have the most HR potential of all of them. Another reason I like Miggy there at the start is with Markakis in front of him and Reimold behind him he should get some pitches to hit and it might help him get off to a fast start and set the tone for his season.

The chances of getting Bedard may be diminishing. Andy MacPhail was very vague yesterday when I tried to pin him down on when Bedard would be healthy. Maybe the uncertainty of his health makes him too risky. Also, the Sun's Jeff Zrebiec today wrote that "chances appear slim" of signing Bedard.

We'll see, one thing we learned again this winter is things change. At the start of free agency, Pedro Felix was supposed to be the O's 3B target. Then we thought they signed Garrett Atkins for third and now Tejada will play there......Steve

Steve,
I think you did a good job of covering both the Pros and Cons. I can kind of see the reasoning behind batting Tejada cleanup considering we don't have a developed power bat in the lineup. I think we'll see more people in that four hole this year than any year. I just wonder how Tejada will react if we are as bad as usual in August and September and he has to give up playing time for Bell. This is truly a make or break year for him and his playing time could wind up being out of his control. Do u think he'll come close to playing in 158 this year?
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Well, there are really two things at work in terms of his playing time. How well is he playing and how well is Bell doing. If Bell is lighting it up around July and is clearly ready, they could try to trade Tejada or he'll just have to deal with a lesser role.

His agent must have pointed out to him that the O's have a prospect waiting in the wings as they say. If Bell struggles or is having a decent, not great year, there would be no reason to rush him to the Majors. The answer to your question will really play out before our eyes this year in Balt and Norfolk......Steve

Batting Miggy 4th would be a bad idea because he's a rally killing machine with those double plays.He hits better in less pressure situations like the 2hole.Jones needs to drop in the order until he gets the plate discipline.Scotts too hot and cold for clean up.In other words we have a lot of good hitters but not a prototype clean up hitter.We've been looking for one since Glenn Davis.There's no doubt Miggys a prima donna and didn't want to take infield with the rest of the team at one time. i think trembley was glad to have him out of his hair,now he has him back again. i don't think Tremley gets his opinion in on anything,mcPhail just does what he does.
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I would think batting second would be the last place you would want a guy that hits into DPs, batting right behind your great on base leadoff guy?

The DP's are not a great stat, but he hit into 29 last year, that's less than one every five games.....Steve

Steve, nice meeting you and Roch at the Fest.
Keep up the good work!

I loved Miggy leaving, but i love him coming back--times have
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Enjoyed meeting you, John. It's great to have so many good fans that check out our stories, thanks......Steve

Steve,

I like the lineup, but I would be tempted to flip Wieters and Reimold.

Jack,

Show me where AM said "'We're gonna buy the bats' (this winter)."
As opposed to buying the bats being a general statement of philosophy about how to build a team.

Miggy is going to have a lot more opportunities to drive runs in,in the AL. With Carlos Lee and Lance Berkman hitting behind him, Miggy's job was to move runners into scoring position.

I dont understand how fans can be upset at a guy who hit .313 last year, when the Orioles highest batting average was .293 (Markakis)

Also, Baltimore is paying 3 million less for Tejeda, then they did for Melvin Mora. Great article Steve!!
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Appreciate that, Stew..........Steve

Steve,

Batting Tejada #2 will probably result in fewer DPs than batting him #4. In the #2 slot he's behind Roberts who likely will hit 40+ doubles and steal 20+ bases {in other words he won't be on first that much to double up}. In the #4 slot he'll have Markakis on in front of him. Even so, I agree, I'd still bat Tejada #4.

If at the all star break both Bell & Tejada are hitting a ton, don't trade Tejada, move either he or Bell to DH. If Scott is also hitting a ton, then maybe make a trade.

Baldy

I'm very conflicted about this. The good news is that he's only a one year rental, and hopefully Josh Bell will be ready by the end of the season, or the beginning of next at the latest. And $6M isn't a huge investment.

On the other hand, this guy definitely left behind quite a mess when he was sent packing to Houston. It's one thing to make a stupid offhand comment on a radio show (Mr. Huff) and redeem yourself, but Mr. Tejada left a trail of destruction behind him when he left:

1) Played a role in Palmeiro's crash and burn;
2) Is now well established as a "player" in the steriods fiasco;
3) Team malcontent extrodinaire (regardless of how much the players love him, that's great; but my recollection of him was as a distinct "downer" force in the clubhouse), and definitely had lost the support of the fans by the time he left.
4) In his time away from Baltimore, has definitely established that he has "issues" with the truth (falsified birth certificate, obstruction of justice conviction).

I'm sorry, I really don't see him as the modern personification of the "Oriole Way", or even Mr. McPhail's "plan". And I really don't care if he can help (which, I'm still a little suspicious of now that's he definitely on the downhill side of his career and no "juice" to help out), I just don't see him as the kind of person we want here.

He's going to have to really sell it, through words and actions on the field, that he is truly a changed man, for me feel like he deserves a second chance here. Again, at least he's only a one year rental until we can plug another good young player in that position. But as it stands now, he's an insult to every good player who wore an Oriole uniform and played the game the right way.
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I will guess you speak for a lot of people with a similar opinion. While I don't agree, I must say you stated your case well and did it in a very professional manner.

How nice to read legit criticism with reason behind it and not the usual stuff we see.

Steve

Oh man, I feel sorry for you Steve. You've inherrited Jack after he left Roch's blog with tail between his legs, not once, but twice after he changed his name to Chris...but I digress because I'm sure you know the history.

Anyway, I think that lineup is spot on except I would flip Riemold and Weiters so you have L-R-L-R throughout the entire lineup. I believe Riemold always batted behind Weiters as protection in the minors as well and that seemed to work out. I'm getting really excited about this team now. I'm trying to keep my emotions in check and just hope for a .500 team and nothing greater than that, but this team has a lot of talent and a lot of people around the league and in the non-Baltimore media are now starting to taking notice.

Great job on the FanFest coverage too.

Steve, I don't think the naysayers have a very good argument. Sure, Tejada's a little older whose skills may be declining, but he's an All-Star and ex-MVP whose skills are declining, not an average major leaguer. (He still put up excellent numbers last year.)

As for the charge that Miggy "seemed to lack intensity" in the later part of his first tenure with the Orioles, yes, it's true, but why? He lost interest in playing in Baltimore only after the organization reneged on its promise to surround him with the players needed to make them a contender again. Miggy quit caring because he's such a fierce competitor who hates losing, and that's not a bad thing.

Any "baggage" is greatly negated by the good that Tejada does out in the community, from aiding earthquake victims in Haiti to coming through on a home run promised to a boy with muscular dystrophy. Brian Roberts has a little of the same baggage, but only the mean-spirited would want him off the team. Same goes for Miggy. Also, since the Brian, Nick Markakis, Dave Trembley and other O's have warmly embraced him coming back, I just this isn't enough of an issue to waste one's time on.

Yes, his power numbers have been down, but the last year with the O's shouldn't be counted against him because he only played 138 games due to an injury. As for his Astro years, playing at Minute Maid Park is a tougher park for hitters than Camden Yards, and while I don't expect a return of his 30+ homer years, I think 20 to 25 homers is a very realistic goal.

Grounding into double plays is always something that's plagued Tejada, so last year was no surprise. What was a good surprise (ignored by his naysayers, incidentally) for him and actually an area where he's improved from when he was younger was him striking out just 48 times in 635 at bats, which was NL best AB to SO ratio. (His strikeouts were fewer than any Oriole with at least 400 at bats last season.) This is a much more meaningful and important than the double plays, because it means he's putting the ball in play on a consistent basis.

Finally, as to the argument that Tejada's never played third. True, but I don't think that's going to be an problem (the transistion from third to short would be much tougher). Just as some players are called "professional hitters," I think Tejada is a "professional ballplayer" who has enough natural talent, athletic ability and the "knack" to pick it up pretty quickly. It will be interesting to see who the Orioles tap to mentor him. Brooks, maybe?

As for your "crazy" thought that Tejada could hit fourth, Steve, then call me crazy, too. As I noted earlier, he doesn't strike out much, has some pop in his bat and gap power for sure. No, I don't think he's what's typically thought of as a clean up guy, but here's a fun fact to consider: Despite the fact that Miguel was not the Astros' clean up hitter last season (Carlos Lee filled that role), he still managed to knock in 86 runs while be shuttled between third, fifth and even second in the lineup; given that knowledge it's quite possible that batting fourth for the O's he could top 100 RBI with the likes of B-Rob, Markakis, Adam Jones and Felix Pie hitting ahead of him.

I read something in the Sun suggesting that the possibility of the Orioles signing Erik Bedard is now considered slim, because they haven't been seriously negotiating with his agent. What I'd like to know is whether that's coming down from on high or just a reporter reading too much into the inactivity. Bedard hasn't even started throwing, as far as I've heard, so this rumor seems a bit premature. Have you heard anything on this front?
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First of all, Zrebeic is very good so he wouldn't report it without some credible basis for sure. I have not heard that, but MacPhail was very vague yesterday whenever someone tried to pin him down on when Bedard would be healthy. Maybe he fears he won't be healthy until late in the year.

Also MacPhail said Bedard would probably sign late so there must still be time to talk more with the agent if the O's seek that. We'll see......Steve

Eh, I would hate to see Tejada ground into a double play in a first and third with one out situation leading off a game (him batting 4th). I say Trembley bats him 2nd due to the sole purpose of the doubles he hits. Roberts, Tejada, Markakis, Jones, Reimold, Wieters, Scott, Atkins, and Izturis.

Here is the one thing I like about having Tejada back. We don't need to carry a one position back-up! Tejada can be the everyday 3rd basemen and if Izturis gets hurt he can still back-up short w/Wiggy backing up 3rd, 1st, 2nd. You don't have to carry an Andino type player just for a one position back-up! Now if they could just let Synder back up first and catcher we could carry an extra pitcher!

I would agree with you in batting Tejada at clean up, but he is definitely going to hit into a ton of DP's. Without question. I feel like clean up hitters get a ton of at bat's with guys on first, so IMO that's kind of like setting him up to kill rallies.
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But in hitting into a league-leading 29 DP's that is still less than one every five games. It would seem he'd have many more chances to plate runs that once every five games. Plus, a DP can kill a rally wherever you bat in the lineup....Steve

Steve, very good piece on the O’s projected starting line-up. However, I was a bit skeptical of Tejada potentially sitting in the clean-up spot after reading your piece. Then going through the line-up, I can see why. Sure, he’s on the decline with age, but MT’s best years were in BAL! Even though they aren’t going to see the display of power of the past, at least the O’s get a very good contact hitter with consistency. Anybody probably can argue that Riemold should be in that spot, but it‘s still early and we need to see what he does for an entire season. He has the potential to be in that spot, but Reimold’s future isn‘t now. Some would say Markakis should remain in the clean-up spot as well, but I personally think he thrives better in that 3 spot as you detailed in your piece. With some additional veteran presence that line-up, we should see some more runs put up on the score board and the O‘s out of the cellar of the east. Now lets “HOPE” that Millwood presence does the same for that young pitching staff.
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Also, Jason, I am not saying he will drive in 100 runs. Just thinking that would be the best spot in the lineup for him at the start of the year to see what it looks like and place the younger guys a spot or two farther down at the beginning.

You could move them up to that spot later. Of course Dave Trembley gets the final vote and he may be thinking something totally different that any of us.....Steve

I think this could be a useful signing since its only for a year. Bell could probably use some time at AAA. My only concern is him taking the #10 from Jonsey when Tejadas merely a stop gap and Jones is part of the future. I already own a Jones shirt with 10 on it and the bobblehead from last year and not to mention the 2110 promotion items from last year and is already scheduled for this year. I know this doesn't affect wins or losses but it would bother me. Tejada doesn't deserve it with all the turmoil he created last time here and then being exposed as a phony in the Mitchell report. I hope the O's step in here and stop it

Steve, I think your point about taking some pressure off of Wieters and Reimold by having Miggy bat fourth makes sense. This would allow them to progress at a more natural pace without making them feel as though they need to carry the team.

Tejada makes perfect sense in that slot and I'd imagine that's what Dave Trembley's thinking, too. If it turns out that someone is displaying more power and seem better fitted, there's no reason he can't juggle the lineup, but wherever he Miggy ends up, I've got to think he'll be a valuable addition to the offense.
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Spirit of 1966, Like Steve, while I disagree with you, I do think you present your side of things well. While there are a few issues, I think you're making more of them then they warrant. If you want to call Miggy a "player" in the steroid flap, fair enough, but then so is B-Rob. If you want to make that grounds for keeping him off of the team, then according to your logic, Brian shouldn't be on the team either.

And your criticism in this regard completely ignores his many acts of charity and kindness (see my post above for a couple of examples). It's unfair and inaccurate to attack him without taking that side of him into account. We're not talking about a serial killer here, after all.

I think your recollection of Tejada's "trail of destruction" and him being a malcontent shows a bit of selective memory on your part. As I showed above, the Orioles promised to build a winner around him when they signed him the first time, then proceeded to renege on their promise (unintentionally due to circumstances, to be sure, but they reneged none the less).

He signed with the O's with the understanding that they were going to be contenders and when that not only didn't transpire, but the team headed in the opposite direction, Tejada, who's as passionate about winning as anyone in the majors, realized Baltimore was not where he wanted to be. In short, if Miggy was a malconent at the end of his time with the O's, it's because they pushed him into that situation.

As for Tejada's recent power outage, I don't think that has much to do with PEDs or lack thereof. In 2007, his last season with the O's, he was injured and only played in 138 games, while in Houston for the past two, he was playing in a park that's less hitter-friendly than Camden Yards. I'm predicting he hits over 20 homers.

And yes it does matter what his teammates think of him, because he might not be coming back now had they protested. If Andy MacPhail thinks he fits into the O's rebuilding plans, who are we to question. MacPhail's done an excellent job getting the team pointed in the right direction and knows better than we do what's for the good of the team.

Steve,
I realy enjoyed your article and your projected lineup is just the appetizer we need to really start thinking about the season. Wherever they decide to bat Miggy the runners in front of him have got to be prepared to run with less than 2 outs. We can avoid a lot of DPs with the hit and run and it is really something we should do more of anyway IMO. Roberts has always been a top notch baserunner. Nick, Adam, and Nolan all have better than average speed and need to work in ST to become better at getting good jumps and reading pitchers. Miggy makes very good contact and hits the ball hard someplace most often. That's what it takes. If we start the runners we will make things tougher on opposing pitchers and defenses. It takes them out of their comfort zone. Can't wait for the games to start !!!
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Thanks for checking in.....Steve

Steve,

I was surprised how strongly Roberts and Nick endorsed Miggy. I applaud Andy for talking to them before bringing him back.

I still have some reservations, because I think it was clear that Miggy didn't want to be here when he left. Hopefully he is not interested in returning only because he had no other offers?

I wonder how he'll react when Bell comes up and is given the 3B job? Do you think they have a "gentlemans agreement" that Andy would trade or release Miggy when Bell gets the call? It's hard to imagine him being happy if he's not starting.
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My guess is they didn't discuss that, but just a guess. You would think his agent, in looking at teams, would know that Bell is out there. Still, Tejada got a fair contract and salary in my opinion and if he is having a good season, he could keep the job all year while Bell gets experience. It will be interesting to track both their seasons in 2010.......Steve

Steve-

First of all, this was a great move. We didn't need another Figgins type OBP guy, we have those. We need a guy that can hit doubles and drive in runs.

Lets not forget, Millar hit clean-up for the O's for 2 or 3 years and never hit more than about 15 HR a season.

I have to disagree that he should hit 4th. I think, and I know he is in his second year, but, Reimold is this teams best HR hitter. He has always been rated our best POWER prospect. And I feel a 30+ season.

It should be:
Roberts s
Jones r
Markakis l
Reimold r
Weiters s
Tejada r
Atkins r
Scott l
Izzy s
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I agree that Reimold may be the teams best HR hitter, just feel that early on he shouldn't be put in that spot. He could handle it, but I would just ease him into that and start with Miggy there......Steve

What is the problem. Who do you guys think the O's were going to sign. Everyone wanted laroche to play first, Miggy is much better. He is still a great player. The O's get a B for the off season and an A if Atkins pans out. I think he will. Clint Hurdle screwed this guy up and by the time the Rockies gave the job to Jim Tracey it was too late to Atkins. They wanted Ian Stewart in the line up and Clint Barmes caught fire so Atkins just didn't get the opportunities.
Go O's
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Actually, Dennis, most responding seem to be in favor of the move or at least open to it. Some of the usual suspects came thru with negativity. Spirit of 1966 was against and made his case for that well. I think Miggy will be given a real fair chance by the fair fans of Baltimore when April rolls around. Nice to hear from Colorado, thanks for writing in...........Steve

Good Article, and its def. a solid move considering our situation. Another plus is that Tejada can play short and save us on a roster spot or crunch. Negative is how he will probably act if Bell is called up which leads to another positive that we could probably trade him if he complains. Its a good move.

When I was a kid, there was this wonderful thing called the “Oriole Way” that was a model of what sports could and should be for a town. The year I was 9, the O’s took down the great Drysdale and Koufax, and for the next 25 years, no team won more games than did our Bal’mer O’s. The “Oriole Way” was a big big part of this Camelot-like phenomenon.

Wikipedia defines “The Oriole Way “ as “ an organizational ethic best described by longtime farm hand and coach Cal Ripken, Sr.'s phrase "perfect practice makes perfect" The Oriole Way was a belief that hard work, professionalism, and a strong understanding of fundamentals were the keys to success at the major league level. It was based on the belief that if every coach, at every level, taught the game the same way, the organization could produce "replacement parts" that could be substituted seamlessly into the big league club with little or no adjustment.” But the key word was “professionalism”.

In 1985, two years after winning our last World Series, the Oriole Way suffered a major hit as the team abandoned “development from within” and gambled on 3 huge free agents (Lacy, Aase, Lynn) to try buy their way back to success. Another major blow came in 1988 when the team aggressively fired Cal Sr, a key architect of the Oriole Way a scant 6 games into the season. The Oriole Way struggled onwards into its last hurrah in 1989 as the unheralded team almost took the division title, losing in the last series of the year in Toronto.

Although the team returned to on-field success in 1996 and 1997, the Oriole Way was almost nowhere to be seen among the steroid using free agent first baseman, the umpire-face-spitting second-baseman, the “play-golf until 60 minutes before game-time” manager, and the 100mph relief pitcher that went headhunting against innocent opposing batters just because his straighter than straight fastball was just launched into orbit for a game-changing home run.

On December 1, 1998, the Oriole Way was pronounced officially dead as the team signed a corked-bat cheating, over-the-hill, me-first, head case, angry, surly, combatitive, alcoholic, trick-or-treater chasing, hooker-stalking superstar named Joey Albert Belle. The Oriole Way was over. R.I.P. Professionalism and fundamentals were no longer part of the job requirement for Baltimore Oriole.

Recently Andy MacPhail has tried to implement a new “plan” based on some of the principles from the late “Oriole Way” including player development, professionalism, and the like. I was shaken, however, by one of his first ever decisions as Oriole GM, in which he approved sending a player to the plate in the top of the first inning who would be unable to swing the bat and would be removed immediately after the plate appearance in a effort to cheaply and classlessly prolong the player’s individual glory record streak of consecutive games played. Did not sound too professional to me. And shame on “Mr. Fundamentals”, Dave Trembly, too.

But other than that egregious error, Mr. MacPhail has displayed a fairly steady hand, overseeing the improvement of scouting, international presence, minor league development and youth-oriented construction of the big league team. Until now.

Yesterday, as it became clear that the Tejada signing was more than a rumor, I felt exactly the same cold chill of the boney finger of Death to the Oriole Way that I felt that sad December day in 1998, when the team euthanized the dying patient by signing Joey Belle. It is very very clear that Andy MacPhail has no intention of bringing back anything like a respect for character or professionalism to the ‘new’ Baltimore Orioles.

Tejada is a me-first, over–the-hill, convicted liar and admitted cheater and steroid-user who has also admitted to other lies to his employer and fans, including about his age and physical condition. (remember the broken wrist and the at-bat-of-shame on 6/22/2007?) He is known to insist on preferential treatment, arrive late for games and meetings, and refuse to participate in team workouts. Worse, he is a guy who proclaimed that the losing was over when he was signed, then publically quit on his team in December 2005, because he wanted more established stars to be brought in instead of going with the rebuilding effort of the front office.
It hurts to have to accept that whatever the Orioles become over the next few years, they will not become the models and standard-bearer for character, fundamentals and professionalism. Shame on Andy MacPhail and the front office. What’s next, bringing back Raffy? Benitez? Eddie Chicotte?

Now, for those of you who do not care about morals and professionalism and character and who only want to do what helps the team on the field – well you should be sad about this signing too. We have an aging player with no speed, no power hitting, and (to use my favorite quote about 3B Ray Knight), the fielding range of a credenza. He has never ever played 3B before and is very likely to be very bad there for at least the first 100 games, even in the statistically unlikely case that he can eventually learn to play it adequately. His frequency of hitting into double plays is atrocious. His lack of walks and low on-base percentage make him a poor choice to hit high in the lineup. His overall hitting is below average for league third basemen (based on his stats from the last 2 years) and that was when he was hitting against less-than-stellar pitching in the National League. He takes at-bats away from Aubrey and/or Bell and/or Snyder and/or Moore. (That alone is not a bad thing, if he himself were any kind of potential longer term solution).

And he costs $6 million for the year. We paid $6 million to bring the circus to town and to reduce our offensive output from what almost any other choice would have provided. And his prima donna status will make it very difficult to bat him in the 6-7-8 slot in the lineup that his bat will merit.

The only silver lining I can see is that it may make it possible for us to let Andino go, and take advantage of the fact that the one guy Tejada CAN hit better than is our SS. But, of course, on those days where he spells Izturis, we suffer the Mt. Rushmore range factor problem in our up-the-middle defense, something our young pitchers will be likely to notice.
This is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE signing for every factor imaginable – hitting stats, fielding projections, clubhouse presence, fan-friendliness, press relations….. all of it.

I will, of course, hope for him to have a rebound season next year – that one pretty good season that some aging hitters can put together towards the end of their career to provide a bittersweet memory of what they could do in their prime. But, like I did with Joey Belle’s 37 dingers in 1999, I will not be able to really enjoy even that, knowing that the soul of my team, the Oriole Way that was once mine will not be seen here again for at least as long as MacPhail is in charge. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
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Wow, I mean just, wow. You fired away there. I don't remember an article this critical of just about anything O's, except the usual suspect junk.

Having said that, it's your right to feel and write what you want (within reason, no naughty or obscene words and you didn't use any).

I think the large majority of MacPhail moves have been about getting younger and getting character people here and among his front office staff. Even in signing Miggy he's trying to buy time for Bell to get experience, not have to be rushed and to see if he is the "real deal."

I would guess most don't feel as strong as you but some would agree with some of your comments.

Again, I think some of the O's moves under MacPhail are Oriole-way type moves, but that period is sadly over, but some of its principles are important and will always be important to the game. That was some post.......Steve

Steve -- Tejada hit .283/.313/.395 on the road last year. Even if you don't assume a dropoff with age and moving to a harder league, those numbers would make him the worst everyday 3B in the AL, and the worst cleanup hitter in the majors.
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Where does the .314 average, 199 hits, 86 RBI and 46 doubles rank him? You can point out negative stats, but overall he had a solid year......Steve

Steve,

Great responses in addition to the consitently great entries. Good luck with Jack.

Spirit of 1966 and Ken Francis,

You both had great posts. I am actually right in between you two. It does seem that fans are more upset with MT than his former team mates. I am OK with the one year contract, but agree that he does not mesh with the type of personal character that the young Os seem to consitently display.

Ken Francis,

I just want to let you know that I have enjoyed your comments on the MASN blogs for a long time now. I often don't agree with you but I almost always find you to be cogent and civil. Those two qualities are very important to me. Thank you.

Steve,

What would you think of Markakis in the two hole?

I would rally like to see Wieters eventually end up batting cleanup. I see Reimold more at five. I like the idea of a swith hitter with power in the four position. Perhaps it's just because I was a big Eddie Murray fan. I just know it is great when a new pitcher came into the game the starter having been chased by the top of the order, Eddie would turn around and smack one out of the park. Great days.
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I still like him in the three spot. I think that is where you put your best all around hitter, considering power, on base percent, hit to all fields, good average. He needs to draw more walks next year and up his avg vs. lefty pitching, but Nick is a solid, excellent, pretty consistent bat.

Wieters could hit four. Only concern would be putting a catcher, who has such a tough defensive load there. Plus no catcher can play 150 or more games, or probably should not. He could of course DH some.....Steve

Sorry about the "be 12" comment in my last comment. I just think there was a passing of the guard when Jonesy took over #10 which he shouldn't have to relinquish for a one year rental. I am willing to give Miggy a chance. If he hustles I will wish him well. My seats are on the third base side so I witnessed his effort or lack there of up close. Even if he was a malcontent none of the guys on the team now were there then to remember it, save, Markakis and Roberts. I am sure if he reverts back to form it will be obvious to them AND Dave Trembley. Besides, if he doesn't give all, I will be his harshest critic.

I don't think Tejada should be given the number 4 spot. He'll have to earn it in spring training. You mentioned he led the NL in double plays the last two years, I believe he also did in the last two years he was in Baltimore as well. Interestingly enough, Jeter led the AL in double plays in 2008 and the moved him to lead off with Damon batting second. Might be something to consider. Learn from your enemies so to speak.

I would like to see Jones, Reimold in the four spot. Perhaps first or fifth for Miggy. Reimold may be the best hitter on the team and he hustles. The fact that he has power doesn't hurt.
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One spot we know he won't hit is first. Roberts is one of the best leadoff hitters in the game and is entrenched in that spot......Steve

Out of town this past weekend. Ecstatic Mig signed here another year. Just hope he doesn't hit into too many double plays. He should not bat 4th. Maybe 5th or 6th.

pv, Thanks for your comments about my posts. I always try to be civil and hope I succeed more than I fail. In my view civility is a very important part of the fabric of society and once we start losing that in our contacts with others it's to the detriment of us all.

As for cogent, I guess I'm okay in that department as long as I don't get worked up too much about a subject and go off on a rant. (Ask Steve about that. LOL)

My problem is I'm highly opinionated and sometimes put too much stock in my own views. Sometimes I get knocked down for obstinately holding onto them, then am forced to eat humble pie when proven wrong. That's okay, though, because we all need to be reminded from time to time of our failings as humility is a good thing to cultivate.

Back to the matter at hand. You question whether Miggy has "the type of personal character" that would mesh with the younger players. I'm guessing you're alluding to their tendency towards humility and his seeming lack thereof.

I can see you having a point there, but would counter that this oughtn't be much of a problem, because a constant in the Baby Birds is that while they don't boast, they all seem to display an inner confidence and strength that belies their years. This is important in how they deal with Tejada, because I don't think that part of his personality would have a negative effect on them.

On the other hand, there's the fiery competitor that's also Miggy, which they'll all benefit from being around. Don't forget, this is the player who's second behind Cal for consecutive games as an Oriole and who even tried to continue his streak after a pitch broke his hand.

He loves the game of baseball with a passion and just as much loves to win, and that's something good that will rub off on them. I really think this is going to be a great acquisition.

By the way, I agree with you about Wieters eventually being the clean up hitter and I think Trembley's hinted at that. And Reimold fifth also works for me.
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Steve, How are you saying Nick is the team's best all-around hitter? It's a close call, but I think that at the moment that honor still goes to Tejada, if by a slight margin. Actually, the stats are very close and it could go either way.

Tejada had a .313 batting average to .293 for Markakis. He also struck out 50 fewer times than Nick in seven fewer at bats.

On the plus side for Markakis, he drew significantly more walks--56 to 19--and had the better OPS, .801 to .795.

I still think we should expect Miggy's home run total to improve by the move back to OPACY, which should improve his OPS. However, Nick is moving into his prime, so we may be seeing him start generating more power, as well.

To my mind, you could bat them three-four and it wouldn't matter much which order you placed them, though having the lefty Markakis hit third makes more sense knowing that Jones is batting second. In any case, the Orioles' offense just got a lot better, something we can all celebrate.

Well, I guess I stoked the fire a little bit there. That's the great thing about these blogs, sometimes the tone comes across differently in writing than in the stream of consciousness moment that created it. My point here was not to paint Tejada as a serial murderer or perpetual low life; yes, he did a lot of good in the community when he was here the first time and recently with the relief efforts in Haiti. The point was that the team he left behind is a much different one than he returns to, and I think there needs to be some acknowledgment on his part that his past actions, while in the context of their times may have been the norm, are not now. And, his role on this team needs to be much different; he is not the "leader of the band", but someone who is here to help us in the transition to a brighter tomorrow, which he may or may not necessarily be a part of.

I think he needs to study Mark McGwire as the model of how NOT to handle things, and insult our intelligence with middling statements that don't really say anything and river of sniffles and crocodile tears. A nice helping of humble pie, and "look, things didn't work out so well the last time, I've learned some very hard lessons and I want to come here and work hard and help get this team back in competition for post season play", followed up by a level best effort, no dogging it, no attitude, no B.S., and that will go a long way toward healing old wounds with the fans (at least this one).

And while we're on the subject, gosh I'd love to know the truth about him and Raffy -- were you guys 'roid buddies, or did Raffy throw you under the bus in a last ditch effort to save the last shred of his integrity before it went down the drain? That one really bugs me.

And one last thing, about Ken Francis' response, and the comparison to B-Rob; the only thing I can say about that is that B-Rob at least attempted (however lukewarm) to "come clean". Tejada never admitted anything until the evidence was overwhelming, and there are the other issues with the falsified birth certificate (ok, I know it's just like steroids, all the Dominican / Latin players were doing it, so that sort of makes it ok, right?). And I don't see a huge discrepancy in B-Rob's numbers post-steriods, he's performing at a pretty high level. No, it's still not ok that he did them, but at least he got it, like Petitte, that it's better to get it out there and get past it, than be a total a** like Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, Palmeiro, Sosa, et al. and try to tell us that you didn't do it, or that if you did, it didn't help you.
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I am not making an excuse for Tejada, but on the case of his birth certificate situation, one thing not known and I am also pretty sure I am right on these facts. Tejada is from a very poor family, even by Dominican standards. It was when he was growing up if his family wanted a shower or water, they had to go to a nearby river.

When he signed with the A's for $2,000, he thought he had a million dollars and could support his family forever. It was said to be the greatest day of his life. Along the way he had some family members that died. i'm not saying to cry a river for the man, but sometimes knowing one's background provides some context on things. That's all.....Steve

The problem with making a lineup for the O's is that so many players have unproven records, but with great potential. There is no doubt that the O's have a potent lineup. I just marvel how they rank in the top five to 10 in the batting stats, save the homers. Of the players that are proven are Roberts, Markakis, Tejada, and like it or not Izturis. The O's know what to expect from them and can put them in accordingly: Roberts in the first hole for his OBP and speed, Markakis in the third slot for his balance or all round playing ability (AVG, OBP, HR), Tejada in the seventh or eigth spot for split stats of strong doubles and double ground outs, and Izturis in the last spot for his weak OBS and AVG. Where do the O's put Weiters (inexperience), Remihold (inexperience), Atkins (inconsistence), Jones (free swinging), Scott (long droughts)? All of these unknowns have good to great potential as do Aubrey, Pie, Wiggy (maybe), and Turner. For example, what if it turns out that Atkins is the new all round player as her former states suggest? Do you move Markakis in the two hole and put Atkins in there? What if Scott becomes much more consistent? He should then go in the fourth hole. What if Jones gaines consistent patience, should he go in the fifth or sixth hole or maybe the second spot with his speed and power to bring in the bottom of the order? What if Remihold realizes that he has both amazing contact and power skills, not to mention more speed with the healing of his foot injury. That would make for a great all round player for the third hole and the clean up slot.

Do the O's create a lineup based on the potential of the players or where they are at currently? If the latter, then how does Trembley make such a lineup with all of these unknowns? That is what Spring Training is for. . . What do you all think?
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I think you may be over thinking it a bit. Trembley knows the kind of hitters Reimold, Wieters and Jones are, we just don't know for sure about their production or the kinds of seasons they'll have. He knows for instance, Reimold has good plate discipline, takes pitches and has great power potential. Jones has speed and can hit mistake pitches a long way, things like that and Wieters has opposite field power. He can always adjust the lineup along the way as well......Steve

That lineup sure looks nice if healthy. I am still not convinced Scott will be an Oriole on opening day.
I'd still like to see them bring in a 3rd baseman, trade Scott and a pitcher or 2(Berken,Bergesen,Hernandez) maybe even Pie and bring in another starter, Kansas City needs youthful exp. players.
Wigginton is a waste of a roster spot imo.

A lineup I like would include Roberts hitting in an RBI mans slot, his SBs are down and he has the capability of being one of those 15 HR 110 RBI men (Molitor,K.Hernandez) simply because of the dbls. A long shot lineup I know but workable imo.

Joenes could hit LO.

Tejada should help, but they need more exp. arms or they are gonna end up allowing more than they score again and no team does well with that .

Sign a 3rd baseman, trade Scott and a youngin or 2 and bring in an arm.

Pujols and Wright couldn't lead them to glory without the pitching.

I bet Trembley hasn't slept the last few days working out different lineups. I wouldn't mind seeing Markakis protecting Reimold. The sophomores need a proven bat behind them. What about:

Roberts
Jones
Reimold
Markakis
Wieters
Tejada
Scott
Atkins
Izturis

Either way it looks to be a more exciting year this year. If our young pitching can continue to develop I don't see why we can't win 82 games this year. If one of either Snyder/Bell develop this year in AAA in addition to our current group, maybe a wild card in 2011. Go Os.

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Great article as usual. I like the idea of Miggy playing for the Orioles for a year, or maybe longer if need be. When he left the O'S things were not so good, but he is a good player and as we see from last years stats, he can produce. I look forward for him to have a good year playing for an entirely different organization from when he was here before. It will be fun watching Miggy and Bell this season. I think as long as Miggy produces, he will be playing 3rd. Batting him in the #4 slot is not a bad idea until Weiters and Reimold get some at bats under their belt and get them comfortable. I think Reimold will end up in the #4 slot sometime in the near future. Akins is another one to watch, after he gets some time with the crow, he might get back to his old form and that is nothing but positive. I am really excited about this team and can't wait till ST. I give AM an "A" for his rebuilding effort, especially if he lands a good left handed pitcher. Have a great day!
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Thanks, Ray, you too.......Steve

Your lineup is definitely interesting, but do you really want to take away the prospect of having three doubles hitters in a row? With a Roberts-Tejada-Markakis 1-2-3 you have three guys who are going to end the league in the Top 10 in doubles hitting back-to-back-to-back. I think that is going to potentially produce more runs than having Tejada in the 4-hole.

It does leave a much younger person that has to hit in the 4-hole, but judging by his drastic improvement at the end of last season, I don't think it is unreasonable to think that Wieters could rake in RBI's in that spot. And with AJ protecting him in the 5-hole... not THAT is a formidable lineup.

I'm going:

Roberts 2b
Tejada 3b
Markakis Rf
Wieters C
Jones Cf
Scott Dh
Reimold Lf
Atkins 1b
Izturis Ss

That is huge production. Anybody 2-8 is capable of hitting 20 dingers and 75 RBIs. You also still have alternating spots between righty and lefty/switch hitter, besides for the 7/8 spots; and we know Trembley likes to do that. I would want to lock that in!
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I know there is a lot of debate on where Jones should hit, but I like him in the two hole. Early last year he showed good plate discipline at times and think about the double steal possibilities and base running havoc he and B-Rob could create. I remember how good the offense looked last April when it was Roberts, Jones and Markakis all off to great starts. Plus, if Jones is on first and Markakis or Tejada hit one of thier many doubles, he could often score from there. Even though Adam has real power and could hit lower in the order, I like bunching the speed guys at the top...........Steve

I love this move, and its even better knowing how many of the players like him. Hopefully Adam Jones will get to keep number 10 and MT can just switch, cause Jones will be here longer, plus the whole 21 10 thing goes to waste.

Steve,

I think you make a great point, and bunching the speed guys together is a great idea if we are willing to run. That's what it all comes down to for me, though. Jones was 10 for 14 on the paths last year. I know he had a handful of injuries over the course of the year, but regardless 14 attempts just isn't going to cut it. Trembley needs to give the green light more often, ESPECIALLY if our lineup is built around speed. If you play conservatively on the basepaths then that's fine too, there's something to be said for that, but then you have to build your lineup around the 2 run double, or the 3 run dinger.

In theory, I LOVE your idea of building around speed. I'd like to see Roberts, Jones, Pie, Izturis, Reimold, and Markakis ALL taking more chances than last year... I just am not sure if the Orioles are going to see it that way too; we often talk big about increasing our stolen bases, but rarely do we seem to actually follow through.

1 Brian Roberts 2B
2 Nick Markakis RF
3 Matt Wieters C
4 Miguel Tejada 3B
5 Nolan Reimold LF
6 Adam Jones CF
7 Luke Scott DH
8 Garett Atkins 1B
9 Cesar Izturis SS

I had many of the same thoughts as "Spirit of 1966" above. However, I am open-minded and willing to give Miggy a chance. What we all MUST remember is that this is baseball. It's a GAME. It's not real life. I don't understand people getting so upset and boycotting the Yard or the O's or whatever.

I just don't get it. Jack is a perfect example. We're not trying to bring peace to the Middle East. We're playing baseball. Miguel is neither a good or a bad signing. It has its pros and cons, as Steve pointed out here.

It's ok to debate these pros and cons - I'm all for the discussion! I love the debate. But nobody should get so ugly as to boycott the team or give themselves an ulcer over a move the FO makes. I will be rooting for Miggy when he steps to the plate and I don't know how I'd do anything else. Maybe Jack will be rooting for the opponent's pitcher?? I just don't get it...

Steve,

When do you sleep?! Article posted at 3:17 pm on 1/24 and you responded to comments throughout the day AND NIGHT! Hardest working man in the business? What's your secret? Loads of coffee?

Anyway, I enjoy reading your articles and listening to you on the radio. Looking forward to the upcoming O's season. Lots of excitement. Enjoyable time of the year.

While its fun to speculate on a line-up, we all know there isn't going to be ONE line-up all year. I'd guess that just about every lineup listed here is going to be used during the season. It all depends on match-ups, who's pitching against us, who's hurt, who's slumping, who's hot...

The nice thing here is that so many people are excited about it and want to put in their two cents.
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Thanks for the nice comments. I try to work some sleep in every now and then. Yesterday was a fun day to see all the well-thought out comments by the readers. While hanging on the couch watching football, I had plenty of time to both review some of my FanFest interviews and sit back and watch the comments roll in and respond to several. I enjoy the give and take with the readers and thanks for noticing that it went on pretty much all day! Steve

I love having Miggy back. Just look at the numbers compared to last years regular 3B. The price is even less too. I think Cal made a very good 3b then Miggy can at least be solid. I'd be happy with a line like .300/.350/.450 15 HR 80 RBIs

Get Bedard back and we get 2 good players for a decent run that we gave up to help us get towards the run.

Spirit of 1966, I agree with you to a large extent about the need for Tejada to make a public mea culpa in which he admits he's made some mistakes, has learned from them and has changed for the better. I think that's a great idea.

Roberts did own up much more than Miggy ever did (though B-Rob didn't quite volunteer it, either, remember, until he was implicated). I'd like to see the Tejada issue(s) addressed (however briefly) at a press conference when he comes back to the team. (Any word on whether one is planned, Steve?).

I think Steve put things in perspective about Tejada lying about his age. It's wrong, and there's no way around that, but it must be a great temptation to fudge about it when his family is literally dirt poor and a huge contract (more money than a whole neighborhood of Dominicans is likely to see in a lifetime) is suddenly thrust under his nose and a pen pushed in his hand. No excuse, but some context is needed and in this case I think it probably mitigates the severity of the offense.
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His physical is reportedly tomorrow. So if all goes well, they could have an announcement maybe as early as tomorrow or Wednesday perhaps......Steve

Pos - Name - Bats - Best year hitting in that spot

2B - Roberts (Switch) .310
3B - Tejada (Right) .367
RF - Markakis (Left) .297
LF - Reimold (Right) .400
C - Wieters (Switch) .500
DH - Scott (Left) .298
1B - Atkins (Right) .357
CF - Jones (Right) .328
SS - Izturis (Switch) .283 (.271 last yr)

» Miguel Tejada: .367 batting 2nd last year. 106/289 Not bad at all.. I'm not sure there's any way around his GIDP #'s but I think having him bat 2nd you don't risk the 1st inning-ending GIDP with RISP (That's normally when he does them). 41 Runs, 26-2B, & 34 RBI last year 2-slot.

» Nolan Reimold: Needs to take the 4 hole role. I expect him to be our long-term power guy. He hit .400 last year, he'll do great.

» Matt Wieters: .500 (6/12) batting 5th last year. He's gonna really come together this year with a 100+ RBI season 25+ HR.

» Luke Scott: has a career .298 avg batting 6th (245/822); 50/76 HR, 55/106 2B, 147/247 RBI, 106/200 BB. He is for some reason more productive there and hits poorly everywhere else. I mean last year he hit .298 w/ a .969 OPS batting 6th IDK why!? (86/289, 21 HR, 20-2B, 62 RBI).

» Garrett Atkins: Hit .357 batting 7th last year 1.064 OPS.

» Adam Jones: has a career .328 avg batting 8th; In 2008 batting 8th he hit .321 (53/165) 15-2B, 28 RBI, 3-3B, 80 Total Bases all in just 165 At Bats. His Career 2 spot: 428 AB 20-2B, 4-3B, 69 RBI, 210 TB.

The 2nd round of the lineup you get 3 speedsters Jones, Izturis, Roberts followed by Double guys as Jason C. said "Roberts-Tejada-Markakis 1-2-3 you have three guys who are going to end the league in the Top 10 in doubles hitting back-to-back-to-back." Mix Pie in there too and you don't have to jostle the line-up as much while maintaining the speed strategy.

Our offense is set. I really like providing factual information based on what players have done in different slots even though some people disagree w/ this theory but doesn't it make sense to put guys where they've had the most success before? Especially in Luke Scott's case.
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I think that info can be useful, but I would not rely on that heavily. You have to consider more than just that, but again you did an amazing research job......Steve

steve -

Negative thinkers are sure driven to post their feelings. The ultra-downer Jack complains that the 'bought bats' aren't Yankosphere, 900 OPS types. But I always understood the bat buying to be something that will happen next year of after, when the pitching is ready to compete. These aren't the bats, these are temps. And they weren't bought, just rented.

The wistful nostalgia of Mark C. for the Oriole way struck a chord, but really the guy needs to remember Frank Robinson. Robby was the straw that stirred that '66 team and the key that made the following decade so great. I remember that he was a troubled though talented guy with an attitude and a trunk load of luggage when the Reds dumped him.

Steve, When you say there could be an announcement concerning Tejada as early as Tuesday afternoon, do you mean in the sense of him actually sitting in the interview room beside Andy MacPhail or just a press release reporting the signing?
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Omazing, Nice bit of work you've done there. While batting Miggy second would hurt in the sense of run production (and I think his main talent is as a run producer) and he doesn't have ideal speed either, there is some merit to having him bat there, principally that he's a very good contact hitter (only 48 strikeouts in 635 at bats last season), which is important for a two hole hitter.

And I think he'd actually cut down his number of hitting into double plays in that slot, mainly because Brian is a doubles machine who also gets to second quite a few other times as well by stealing second. Tough to get doubled up when the baserunner's standing on second. : )
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Just guessing, but I would think the team would have a formal press conference since he should be in town for the physical. That could happen Tuesday or Wednesday I would think. As of late Monday night though, there had been no announcements from the team on anything yet.......Steve

One additonal thought - defense is way more important than offense right now. The primary strategic goal of the team this year is to develop the pitchers. There is nothing to play for this year but there is in '11 or '12 possibly, but only if those potentially good arms get there.

I believe that it is key to the mental health of these guys to have good fielders behind them. A kid doesn't need wins, he needs stats. A guy who loses 3-2 won't learn wrong lessons or develop hangups and he'll still have a 3.0 era. But wave at the grounders and have some clunky outfielders pick up catchable balls and a young pitcher won't know what to throw; he'll learn that he has to strike out everybody.

Miggy's avg. UZR/150 was about -3 over the last 3 years. I figured a ss moving to 3rd would perform better, just like cfs do in left or right. To test this, I took a look at the 60 or so players who played 50+ innings at short as well as third in a season over the last 3 years. Interestingly, the UZRs were just about exactly the same at 3rd as they at short.

So we can project Miggy as somewhat below average defender. I'd argue that the team would have been better off with a defensive specialist like Crede. Wouldn't win as many games in '10, but the point isn't to win games this year, it's to compete during '11-'14.
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I don't agree, Steve. The point is to win "more" games this year, a goal Andy MacPhail set when he extended Trembley last year at the end of the season.

No one is saying they can play October baseball, but they need to start winning more games for the mental health of every player and fan. They need to show tanginble improvement that next year's potential free agents can see and say "that team is on the rise."..........Steve

Hi Steve,
Figured I'd input a nugget of my opinion to the lineup discussion. It can be maddening going through all the possibilities, so my comment is just on one player: Adam Jones.

I whole-heartedly agree with you that he serves us best in the 2-spot, putting another fast runner on base for the RBI guys. He played 81 games there last year and had very good numbers overall (.305 avg, .520 slg, .882 ops). It just seemed to me that when he was slotted number 3 (31 games) he seemed to try to do too much. Maybe it was just coincidence, because Trembley started batting him 3 more after he had such a furious start.

Most of his struggles looked to me like he was reverting to the undisciplined Adam Jones of 2008. For instance trying to crush every pitch he saw and whiffing at way too many low-and-away sliders. He was such a sucker for that pitch later in the season after being so disciplined against it early on.

I think Crow will get him back on track. And if he comes into camp in very good shape again as I expect he will, hopefully he learns that he doesn't have to swing for the fences. His strength and hitting ability will take care of the power, he just needs to focus on getting solid contact and driving the ball.
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Great points, Jeff, I agree. I feel pretty confident Adam will remember what allowed him to have the good first half, things like taking pitches and hitting to right field. He'll know sometimes he has to take a pitch or two to let Roberts steal a base. He'll also realize he got away from that as the season went on as you point out......Steve